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	<title>Comments on: Kudzu Economics</title>
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		<title>By: SoapBoxTech</title>
		<link>http://peaknix.com/2009/03/01/kudzu-economics/comment-page-1/#comment-375</link>
		<dc:creator>SoapBoxTech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 03:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wouldn&#039;t think live bird flu virus would end up in flu vaccines either, yet it happened and got sent to several countries.

I am totally with you that these things we&#039;re talking about need to be done for survival, and I also agree that greed is rampant in our western society.  Matter of fact, I agree with just about everything you said there.  I am just going to have to devote some time to writing my thoughts out more completely in regards to my concern about developing fascist control mechanisms and why I think we must deal with those while trying to deal with these other issues.  It&#039;s just too complex to try to sum up in a quick comment, but I am convinced that if we manage to achieve viable survival, but only through fascist means, then we are still losing out in the long run.

I did get your email, and I am honored at the invitation...and interested.  I am just looking over the website and I will email you back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wouldn&#8217;t think live bird flu virus would end up in flu vaccines either, yet it happened and got sent to several countries.</p>
<p>I am totally with you that these things we&#8217;re talking about need to be done for survival, and I also agree that greed is rampant in our western society.  Matter of fact, I agree with just about everything you said there.  I am just going to have to devote some time to writing my thoughts out more completely in regards to my concern about developing fascist control mechanisms and why I think we must deal with those while trying to deal with these other issues.  It&#8217;s just too complex to try to sum up in a quick comment, but I am convinced that if we manage to achieve viable survival, but only through fascist means, then we are still losing out in the long run.</p>
<p>I did get your email, and I am honored at the invitation&#8230;and interested.  I am just looking over the website and I will email you back!</p>
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		<title>By: Nika</title>
		<link>http://peaknix.com/2009/03/01/kudzu-economics/comment-page-1/#comment-367</link>
		<dc:creator>Nika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for me climate change is NOT about a personality nor do I orient toward such celebrity.  I dont really care what they say - as a scientist - I look for hard data and look at the context. (just thought I would put that out there - there are some people who DO get into environmental lathers because of these celebrities)

I dont think that there is any organized overlords because there is this giant limitation we humans have - greed - which leads to distrust and thievery and - well - the foundations of capitalism!  There is an aggregate whole of demand destruction but I dont think that groups are capable of forcing it - I think its a natural consequence of overpopulation and resource overshoot.

The sun is absolutely the engine of the earth and it&#039;s energy systems.  I also think that the devastation that humans do, in the name of capitalism, is large enough now to push us well past tipping points.

I think that most if not all of today&#039;s &quot;carbon movement&quot; has been co-opted not by nefarious gray men but by greed.  Carbon offsetting? PLEASE - what a scam.  So much about today&#039;s green carbon sensitive bilge is sad because it satiates people&#039;s need to assuage their guilt - truth is, as long as China and India continue to function at status quo and also grow (as they must) any amount of solar panels and urban composting and such, in the name of carbon management, is sadly futile.

I feel strongly that people should get solar panels and compost their stuff not for carbon but to survive.

I am going to send you a private email in a moment about another matter... let me know if you do not get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for me climate change is NOT about a personality nor do I orient toward such celebrity.  I dont really care what they say &#8211; as a scientist &#8211; I look for hard data and look at the context. (just thought I would put that out there &#8211; there are some people who DO get into environmental lathers because of these celebrities)</p>
<p>I dont think that there is any organized overlords because there is this giant limitation we humans have &#8211; greed &#8211; which leads to distrust and thievery and &#8211; well &#8211; the foundations of capitalism!  There is an aggregate whole of demand destruction but I dont think that groups are capable of forcing it &#8211; I think its a natural consequence of overpopulation and resource overshoot.</p>
<p>The sun is absolutely the engine of the earth and it&#8217;s energy systems.  I also think that the devastation that humans do, in the name of capitalism, is large enough now to push us well past tipping points.</p>
<p>I think that most if not all of today&#8217;s &#8220;carbon movement&#8221; has been co-opted not by nefarious gray men but by greed.  Carbon offsetting? PLEASE &#8211; what a scam.  So much about today&#8217;s green carbon sensitive bilge is sad because it satiates people&#8217;s need to assuage their guilt &#8211; truth is, as long as China and India continue to function at status quo and also grow (as they must) any amount of solar panels and urban composting and such, in the name of carbon management, is sadly futile.</p>
<p>I feel strongly that people should get solar panels and compost their stuff not for carbon but to survive.</p>
<p>I am going to send you a private email in a moment about another matter&#8230; let me know if you do not get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nika</title>
		<link>http://peaknix.com/2009/03/01/kudzu-economics/comment-page-1/#comment-366</link>
		<dc:creator>Nika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont know if they have messed with the N genes but my guess would be that they would boost N fixation versus kill it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know if they have messed with the N genes but my guess would be that they would boost N fixation versus kill it</p>
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		<title>By: SoapBoxTech</title>
		<link>http://peaknix.com/2009/03/01/kudzu-economics/comment-page-1/#comment-334</link>
		<dc:creator>SoapBoxTech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, btw Nika.  That construct amazes me too, as does its complexity.

The one area I struggle with is climate change.  I have to preface what I am about to say, with reassurance that I am NOT pro big industry, international corporatism, etc etc.  I believe our fix with big industry and massive consumption has resulted in extreme ecological damage and put us on a tipping point of ecological collapse.

However, I have not bought into the Al Gore/James Hansen propaganda either.  From my perspective, the public concern for ecological damage caused by our standard of living has been co-opted and turned into yet another tool for achieving global control and forced population reduction by over-simplifying the problems and narrowing them down to &quot;too much co2&quot;.  One can see that this must be the case, because the &quot;solutions&quot; being put into effect seem to be more about monitoring human and animal activities like driving, breathing, farting, than they are about addressing industrial pollution and waste.

From my own self-directed learning, it seems that it is far more likely that climate is controlled at a macro level by solar activity (flares and such), and that greenhouse gases have a more micro effect on climate.

So I completely support reforming our society, massively, but I cannot buy into the climaticide argument.  The carbon movement is just another horrible control mechanism that must be shown for what it is so that we can actually start to address the real ecological concerns before it is too late.

Or so I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, btw Nika.  That construct amazes me too, as does its complexity.</p>
<p>The one area I struggle with is climate change.  I have to preface what I am about to say, with reassurance that I am NOT pro big industry, international corporatism, etc etc.  I believe our fix with big industry and massive consumption has resulted in extreme ecological damage and put us on a tipping point of ecological collapse.</p>
<p>However, I have not bought into the Al Gore/James Hansen propaganda either.  From my perspective, the public concern for ecological damage caused by our standard of living has been co-opted and turned into yet another tool for achieving global control and forced population reduction by over-simplifying the problems and narrowing them down to &#8220;too much co2&#8243;.  One can see that this must be the case, because the &#8220;solutions&#8221; being put into effect seem to be more about monitoring human and animal activities like driving, breathing, farting, than they are about addressing industrial pollution and waste.</p>
<p>From my own self-directed learning, it seems that it is far more likely that climate is controlled at a macro level by solar activity (flares and such), and that greenhouse gases have a more micro effect on climate.</p>
<p>So I completely support reforming our society, massively, but I cannot buy into the climaticide argument.  The carbon movement is just another horrible control mechanism that must be shown for what it is so that we can actually start to address the real ecological concerns before it is too late.</p>
<p>Or so I think.</p>
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		<title>By: SoapBoxTech</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoapBoxTech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soy is now so genetically modified, I would be surprised if it still even fixes nitrogen in the soil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soy is now so genetically modified, I would be surprised if it still even fixes nitrogen in the soil.</p>
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